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- .. _netdev-FAQ:
- ==========
- netdev FAQ
- ==========
- Q: What is netdev?
- ------------------
- A: It is a mailing list for all network-related Linux stuff. This
- includes anything found under net/ (i.e. core code like IPv6) and
- drivers/net (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree.
- Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high
- volume of traffic have their own specific mailing lists.
- The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through
- VGER (http://vger.kernel.org/) and archives can be found below:
- - http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev
- - http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/
- Aside from subsystems like that mentioned above, all network-related
- Linux development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on
- netdev.
- Q: How do the changes posted to netdev make their way into Linux?
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- A: There are always two trees (git repositories) in play. Both are
- driven by David Miller, the main network maintainer. There is the
- ``net`` tree, and the ``net-next`` tree. As you can probably guess from
- the names, the ``net`` tree is for fixes to existing code already in the
- mainline tree from Linus, and ``net-next`` is where the new code goes
- for the future release. You can find the trees here:
- - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net.git
- - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next.git
- Q: How often do changes from these trees make it to the mainline Linus tree?
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- A: To understand this, you need to know a bit of background information on
- the cadence of Linux development. Each new release starts off with a
- two week "merge window" where the main maintainers feed their new stuff
- to Linus for merging into the mainline tree. After the two weeks, the
- merge window is closed, and it is called/tagged ``-rc1``. No new
- features get mainlined after this -- only fixes to the rc1 content are
- expected. After roughly a week of collecting fixes to the rc1 content,
- rc2 is released. This repeats on a roughly weekly basis until rc7
- (typically; sometimes rc6 if things are quiet, or rc8 if things are in a
- state of churn), and a week after the last vX.Y-rcN was done, the
- official vX.Y is released.
- Relating that to netdev: At the beginning of the 2-week merge window,
- the ``net-next`` tree will be closed - no new changes/features. The
- accumulated new content of the past ~10 weeks will be passed onto
- mainline/Linus via a pull request for vX.Y -- at the same time, the
- ``net`` tree will start accumulating fixes for this pulled content
- relating to vX.Y
- An announcement indicating when ``net-next`` has been closed is usually
- sent to netdev, but knowing the above, you can predict that in advance.
- IMPORTANT: Do not send new ``net-next`` content to netdev during the
- period during which ``net-next`` tree is closed.
- Shortly after the two weeks have passed (and vX.Y-rc1 is released), the
- tree for ``net-next`` reopens to collect content for the next (vX.Y+1)
- release.
- If you aren't subscribed to netdev and/or are simply unsure if
- ``net-next`` has re-opened yet, simply check the ``net-next`` git
- repository link above for any new networking-related commits. You may
- also check the following website for the current status:
- http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/net-next.html
- The ``net`` tree continues to collect fixes for the vX.Y content, and is
- fed back to Linus at regular (~weekly) intervals. Meaning that the
- focus for ``net`` is on stabilization and bug fixes.
- Finally, the vX.Y gets released, and the whole cycle starts over.
- Q: So where are we now in this cycle?
- Load the mainline (Linus) page here:
- https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
- and note the top of the "tags" section. If it is rc1, it is early in
- the dev cycle. If it was tagged rc7 a week ago, then a release is
- probably imminent.
- Q: How do I indicate which tree (net vs. net-next) my patch should be in?
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- A: Firstly, think whether you have a bug fix or new "next-like" content.
- Then once decided, assuming that you use git, use the prefix flag, i.e.
- ::
- git format-patch --subject-prefix='PATCH net-next' start..finish
- Use ``net`` instead of ``net-next`` (always lower case) in the above for
- bug-fix ``net`` content. If you don't use git, then note the only magic
- in the above is just the subject text of the outgoing e-mail, and you
- can manually change it yourself with whatever MUA you are comfortable
- with.
- Q: I sent a patch and I'm wondering what happened to it?
- --------------------------------------------------------
- Q: How can I tell whether it got merged?
- A: Start by looking at the main patchworks queue for netdev:
- http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/netdev/list/
- The "State" field will tell you exactly where things are at with your
- patch.
- Q: The above only says "Under Review". How can I find out more?
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- A: Generally speaking, the patches get triaged quickly (in less than
- 48h). So be patient. Asking the maintainer for status updates on your
- patch is a good way to ensure your patch is ignored or pushed to the
- bottom of the priority list.
- Q: I submitted multiple versions of the patch series
- ----------------------------------------------------
- Q: should I directly update patchwork for the previous versions of these
- patch series?
- A: No, please don't interfere with the patch status on patchwork, leave
- it to the maintainer to figure out what is the most recent and current
- version that should be applied. If there is any doubt, the maintainer
- will reply and ask what should be done.
- Q: How can I tell what patches are queued up for backporting to the various stable releases?
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- A: Normally Greg Kroah-Hartman collects stable commits himself, but for
- networking, Dave collects up patches he deems critical for the
- networking subsystem, and then hands them off to Greg.
- There is a patchworks queue that you can see here:
- http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/bundle/davem/stable/?state=*
- It contains the patches which Dave has selected, but not yet handed off
- to Greg. If Greg already has the patch, then it will be here:
- https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/stable-queue.git
- A quick way to find whether the patch is in this stable-queue is to
- simply clone the repo, and then git grep the mainline commit ID, e.g.
- ::
- stable-queue$ git grep -l 284041ef21fdf2e
- releases/3.0.84/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch
- releases/3.4.51/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch
- releases/3.9.8/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch
- stable/stable-queue$
- Q: I see a network patch and I think it should be backported to stable.
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Q: Should I request it via stable@vger.kernel.org like the references in
- the kernel's Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst file say?
- A: No, not for networking. Check the stable queues as per above first
- to see if it is already queued. If not, then send a mail to netdev,
- listing the upstream commit ID and why you think it should be a stable
- candidate.
- Before you jump to go do the above, do note that the normal stable rules
- in :ref:`Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst <stable_kernel_rules>`
- still apply. So you need to explicitly indicate why it is a critical
- fix and exactly what users are impacted. In addition, you need to
- convince yourself that you *really* think it has been overlooked,
- vs. having been considered and rejected.
- Generally speaking, the longer it has had a chance to "soak" in
- mainline, the better the odds that it is an OK candidate for stable. So
- scrambling to request a commit be added the day after it appears should
- be avoided.
- Q: I have created a network patch and I think it should be backported to stable.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Q: Should I add a Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org like the references in the
- kernel's Documentation/ directory say?
- A: No. See above answer. In short, if you think it really belongs in
- stable, then ensure you write a decent commit log that describes who
- gets impacted by the bug fix and how it manifests itself, and when the
- bug was introduced. If you do that properly, then the commit will get
- handled appropriately and most likely get put in the patchworks stable
- queue if it really warrants it.
- If you think there is some valid information relating to it being in
- stable that does *not* belong in the commit log, then use the three dash
- marker line as described in
- :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <the_canonical_patch_format>`
- to temporarily embed that information into the patch that you send.
- Q: Are all networking bug fixes backported to all stable releases?
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
- A: Due to capacity, Dave could only take care of the backports for the
- last two stable releases. For earlier stable releases, each stable
- branch maintainer is supposed to take care of them. If you find any
- patch is missing from an earlier stable branch, please notify
- stable@vger.kernel.org with either a commit ID or a formal patch
- backported, and CC Dave and other relevant networking developers.
- Q: Is the comment style convention different for the networking content?
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- A: Yes, in a largely trivial way. Instead of this::
- /*
- * foobar blah blah blah
- * another line of text
- */
- it is requested that you make it look like this::
- /* foobar blah blah blah
- * another line of text
- */
- Q: I am working in existing code that has the former comment style and not the latter.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Q: Should I submit new code in the former style or the latter?
- A: Make it the latter style, so that eventually all code in the domain
- of netdev is of this format.
- Q: I found a bug that might have possible security implications or similar.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Q: Should I mail the main netdev maintainer off-list?**
- A: No. The current netdev maintainer has consistently requested that
- people use the mailing lists and not reach out directly. If you aren't
- OK with that, then perhaps consider mailing security@kernel.org or
- reading about http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/distros
- as possible alternative mechanisms.
- Q: What level of testing is expected before I submit my change?
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
- A: If your changes are against ``net-next``, the expectation is that you
- have tested by layering your changes on top of ``net-next``. Ideally
- you will have done run-time testing specific to your change, but at a
- minimum, your changes should survive an ``allyesconfig`` and an
- ``allmodconfig`` build without new warnings or failures.
- Q: Any other tips to help ensure my net/net-next patch gets OK'd?
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- A: Attention to detail. Re-read your own work as if you were the
- reviewer. You can start with using ``checkpatch.pl``, perhaps even with
- the ``--strict`` flag. But do not be mindlessly robotic in doing so.
- If your change is a bug fix, make sure your commit log indicates the
- end-user visible symptom, the underlying reason as to why it happens,
- and then if necessary, explain why the fix proposed is the best way to
- get things done. Don't mangle whitespace, and as is common, don't
- mis-indent function arguments that span multiple lines. If it is your
- first patch, mail it to yourself so you can test apply it to an
- unpatched tree to confirm infrastructure didn't mangle it.
- Finally, go back and read
- :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>`
- to be sure you are not repeating some common mistake documented there.
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